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Educated or Sophisticated??

I was just having a conversation with my colleague 7ala about educated people and sophisticated ones and how there is a huge difference between both. In a country like Jordan; education has become a necessity like food and medicine; it seems that everyone gets to pursue higher education especially with all these private universities out there.

If we go back 40 or 50 years in time and see how Jordan or the whole Arab World was for that matter; we will find that only a minority of population got the opportunity to pursue higher education; this minority was usually from the rich class because they could afford to send their children abroad at a time we did not have universities here.

University of Jordan was founded in 1962 and starting that time, other sectors of the society had a chance to study without traveling, and education was no longer restricted to the financially fortunate individuals. By then; even middle class families could manage to send their sons and daughters to university to give them a chance at a better and brighter future than them.

I think it was initiated then that almost all people wanted to children to become doctors or engineers because those were in high demand at the time, they would graduate and find jobs waiting for them and they would make good money that will help them and their families to survive.

That generation got the most benefit out of education because they were a rare currency at that time and they did not need to struggle to find a job. The country was still less congested, they were needed and the value of our currency was much higher than now which facilitated financial growth for this group.


With time; more schools and universities were established, education was made obligatory for both genders, public schools made it possible for lower classes of the society to send their children to school. With passing years; the population increased significantly and at the same time the value of the currency was reduced.

In the last 20 years of this country's life, we have witnessed changes take place and we have proved that we are capable to adapt no matter what the circumstances were. Jordan was exposed to critical circumstances without having any infrastructure to adapt, yet the whole country and its people proved one more time that Jordanians are survivors.

One of these changes was that most of the people are educated with at least the first university degree, and just like any rule in this world; more supply means less demand and this is exactly what happened to our generation; we came at a time where there is no significant need or demand for our certificates; we now resemble those who had no education so 30 or 40 years ago.

What could be the solution? Stop people from pursuing higher education and move more towards technical professions?

Isn't it a valid point that the education fees are getting higher to push those who cannot afford it to learn something handy? Maybe it is a message to all those middle and lower class or even poor people to take their children out of schools and pushing them towards workshops and technical training centers to learn a profession that sends the individual earlier into the workforce.

To tell you the truth; I really don’t find anything wrong with this approach; if a person is not into physics, math and chemistry, why not learn something he would benefit from and give back to his family and the society as a whole. Instead of wasting the years on learning things he/she will never like or comprehend; isn't it easier if they shift towards practical education and save themselves and their folks time and money?

Yes, everyone has the right to get education, I am not defying that, but what if this education will be all wasted if this particular someone was not good at it or did not find anything to do with it when he/she graduates?

Yesterday; I read a post by the caller; she was talking about all these young people dreaming of leaving their countries to a place that would provide them with a better opportunity to work and make money, but couldn't it have been easier for some of these people to learn something that would give them the same if not a better opportunity in their own countries?

How do we manage to land good jobs in a place where everyone is educated? How can someone accept to be paid pennies after he/she worked so hard and studied harder for over 16-20 years? What is the solution?

The way I see it, it is no longer special or extraordinary to have a university degree; 30 years ago; a university graduate was someone people looked up to and youngsters saw as a role model. These days; we are like everyone else, we are all educated.

What sets the records straight is how sophisticated people are. The problem with us is that we don’t read and no, newspapers are not considered reading material!

What makes technicians, carpenters, electricians, mechanics, painters … etc. thought less of, is that when they leave school, they ditch reading and they do not develop themselves intellectually; they stop at that point and never grow up. What everyone must realize is that being sophisticated has nothing to do with being educated. Although it is easier for an educated person to grow into becoming sophisticated; it is not impossible for the uneducated to do that as well; all they need is the desire, willpower, determination and persistence and then they will become extraordinary with no doubt.

On July, 26, 2006 1:48 PM , Shuhada said:

No offense but this is a classist point of a view. why try to put yourself above someone else. Jordan is a poor and troubled country and its elite are impotent anyway, sophisticated or not.

but i will share my criteria of sophistication: giving, sacrificing, caring, etc. such are noble and higher human traits that do reflect a more refined cultural evolution. ironically, most of these traits in the arab world are found in religious movements where the level of "giving" and "volunteerism" is at its highets. what good is sphistication and reading if it does not improve society and the human condition. i do not mean to preach, a am only offerring a point of view since this is i guess what you are hopign to get on a blog.

On July, 26, 2006 3:02 PM , Khalidah
from Jordan said:

Shuhadeh,

Thank you for visiting my blog and for your comment ..
I am not trying to put myself above anyone .. in fact I am ranting about lack of solutions that would upgrade us all ..
I agree that Jordan is poor and unlucky but I have to disagree with what you said about the elite being impotent because you are generalizing and this is not valid in any situation ..

"what good is sphistication and reading if it does not improve society and the human condition"

I am actually complaining that people don't read ... if reading and sophistication are not factors of improvement for any nation, I don't know what is!!!
We read to learn .. we learn to be prepared and be up to date with science and technology .. we want to be leading in the front rather than lagging behind ..
What made the Arab and Islamic nations the most civilized centuries ago? wasn't it science and the pioneers who gave us a rich heritage of knowledge? Why are we now a 3rd world? Isn't it because we let our selves slip and we don't seek knowledge like out ancestors?

What you said about giving, sacrificing and sharing is true but this alone will not be enough for us to improve and develop ourselves and our countries ..

Thank you

On July, 26, 2006 3:27 PM , 7ala said:

Khalidah , I have nothing to add here , you said every thing in the right way , i was going to add the same post but "ante da2eman sabbaqa" :-)
Its not important who said it , the important thing is that it was said well!

And I want to focus again on the main point here which is : "being sophisticated has nothing to do with being educated" !

I can never say it better than you did :)

On July, 26, 2006 3:51 PM , Shu Hada said:

no strong disagreement except on your comments:

"I have to disagree with what you said about the elite being impotent"

I think if you judge the effectiveness of the elite by the overall wellbeing of the country, you will find that, according to various development reports such as UNDP and UNICEF and others Jordan is not a country that is doing well, sadly. The elite plan and deliver, and so far thei have not delivered, except if we wish to compare jordan to zimbabwi. average income in jordan is JD250 , and this number counts the very rich and the poor. the median income is about 150jd. in the second largest city Zarqa the average income has dropped from 2004 to 2005. That despite all the billions the iraqis poured into Jordan, and despite the increased taxation and lifting of support on fuel and other necesaities, we still have rising poverty in a small country such as jordan. add to this the constant decline in the quality of education in public schools. if this is a goddamn failure of the elite I don't know what is. unless if we count Mecca Mall and Carefour as signs of economic grwoth.

On July, 26, 2006 4:06 PM , Khalidah
from Jordan said:

7ala,

Thank you dear .. it was something on my mind and needed to say it

Shu Hada,

I agree with you that we are not living in the most perfect conditions .. and I can see that both you and me want the same thing but are elaborating differently .. I still have hope that we will be able to do something and if we just complain without trying at least to do or say something positive .. then we are making things worse ..

Is it better if we stopped reading altogether and just burned ourselves to get more money? Is it better if we keep playing the blame game? We should responsible for our own lives and standards of living .. if we stop working on ourselves .. things will not come to us on their own ..

I am not even discussing the financial situation of the individual in Jordan .. I am talking about his/her intellectual level .. you don't have to be rich to be sophisticated ... is there a link I am missing?

On July, 26, 2006 4:36 PM , jameed said:

"Maybe it is a message to all those middle and lower class or even poor people to take their children out of schools and pushing them towards workshops and technical training centers to learn a profession that sends the individual earlier into the workforce.

To tell you the truth; I really don’t find anything wrong with this approach; if a person is not into physics, math and chemistry, why not learn something he would benefit from and give back to his family and the society as a whole."

That is simply an outrageous classist look at society. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you only ill-phrased your thoughts here. Otherwise, you are saying that poor people are not good at math and physics hence it is acceptable to take them out of school and put them into vocational training where they will not need these skills.

I am yet to find a study that correlates inherent mental capabilities and household income as well as a carpenter, electrictian, car mechanic, or plumber that does not require math skills for his job.

On July, 26, 2006 4:56 PM , Khalidah
from Jordan said:

Jameed,

I realize how this must have sounded when you take these two paragraphs separated from the whole post ..

Lets see here:
- It is a fact that education fees are getting higher and less people can afford it with every passing year.
- If someone happens to be from the middle or lower class and is not good at school, isn't this a solution to shift towards something different rather than accepting failure in something they are not good at in the first place?
- If someone happens to be in the higher class and can afford education .. it does not really matter if he is good at school or not since he can go to a private university and get that certificate after all .. so the above-mentioned solution is not even negotiable ..

"you are saying that poor people are not good at math and physics hence it is acceptable to take them out of school and put them into vocational training where they will not need these skills"

You are generalizing and thats not what I said .. not all poor people are not good at school and some do deserve to pursue their higher education and are worth investing in .. but if someone is not good at school and his family is suffering to afford his/her education; isn't it wiser to look for an alternative rather than spend time and money on a lost cause?

On July, 26, 2006 6:07 PM , adel
from Jordan said:

I see it as follows:

1. When (a jordanian) someone sends his son to university to study engineering. It's not because the boy is brilliant or assembled a robot when he was five years old. It's because the boy wants to be "mohandizzzzz", and the dad likes to be called "abu el-mohandizzzzzzz" So the boy kicks his journey off by failing calculus 101 8 times. Eventually he is an engineer by all measures.

2. Jordan is not an industrialized country. This creates a gap between science and reality. Students graduate and they are struck by the reality of not having any applicable arena to their aquired knowledge. I call Jordan industries "pseudo-industries". Information technology, advertising, and graphic design are volatile industries.

So gain it's our mentality that we need to change!

On July, 26, 2006 7:31 PM , Khalidah
from Jordan said:

Adel,
Exactly my friend

We go to universities and study majors for the wrong reasons ... if time goes back (and it never will) I am not sure I will make the same choices again specially after all the struggle and agony I had to go through and still going through .. who knows? maybe things would have been a lot different ..

On July, 26, 2006 8:57 PM , Moey
from Jordan said:

ok, We go to universities and study majors for the wrong reasons.. but you can still study what u want khalidah

On July, 26, 2006 9:02 PM , Khalidah
from Jordan said:

Moey,
Not all the time wallah .. trust me ..
Some of us are in the Med or Pharmacy or Engineering or LAw schools just to fulfill a dream of their parents and not necessarily theirs ..
Others don't want to go to university in the first place .. yet they are there .. they graduate in 7 or 8 years but who cares .. daddy is forcing me to do this .. let him pay ..
Some are just lazy and find it comfortable .. no responsibility .. no work hassle ..
There are many scenarios out there!

On July, 28, 2006 12:42 AM , adel
from Jordan said:

well said khalida

On July, 28, 2006 8:48 PM , wedad
from Syrian Arab Republic said:

iam sure i missed this conversation

my sisters went shopping now here fi elso2
anyway idont want to im with eben '7alti checking emails, and taking pictures for the strange ads here.